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Your Role in Narcissist’s Shared Fantasy is Why He Hates You (hint: you make him feel himself – and human)

Uploaded 8/2/2020, approx. 25 minute read

The main problem with Sunday is that it is the day before Monday.

My name is Sam Vaknin, and I am the author of Malignant Self-Love, Narcissism Revisited, and a professor of psychology in several universities who shall remain unnamed.

Now, today I would like to discuss your roles, your functions within the narcissist's shared fantasy.

And this means that you would have to first watch my other videos about shared fantasy and about magical thinking. If you don't watch these other videos first, the first part of this video will make very little sense.

To compensate for this, I have divided this video into parts. It's a Jewish thing, we divide everything into parts.

So, the first part deals with your functions and roles in the shared fantasy, and the second part is an introduction to shared fantasy.

So, some of you may wish to watch the second part before you watch the first part, to make sense of the first part.

Did you get that? Because I didn't.

Okay. One good way to describe narcissism is as a breakdown in communication.

Like every other human being, narcissists have internal objects and external objects.

Now, it's very telling that in psychology, we call people objects, primary objects in object relation theory. These are the parents or the caregivers.

Mother is a primary object. When you love someone, when you fall in love with someone, when you're infatuated with someone, when you love someone, it could be your child, it could be a spouse, it could be a lover, it could be a date. You are having object relations with him.

So, people in psychology are objects. How narcissistic of us.

And so, narcissism is a breakdown in communication between internal objects and external objects among internal objects and among external objects.

So, we have three types of miscommunication or should I call in a new word, discommunication between these various objects.

Now, the narcissist, as you well remember hopefully from previous videos, confuses internal and external objects.

He internalizes external objects. He internalizes external objects and then he continues to interact with these as internal objects.

So, he would take a snapshot of you and he would continue to interact with your representation in his mind. He would continue to interact with an internal object that represents you, not with you.

So, narcissists don't have external objects. They don't relate to other people as autonomous, independent, self efficacious agents or entities, but they relate to everything and everyone as avatars, as icons, as internal representations of external handles and objects.

Everything happens inside the narcissist's mind because according to the narcissist, he is the world. You remember the famous concert? We are the world. That's the narcissist. We are the world. So, everything happens inside his mind, inside his head. Everything is an obstruction, a symbol.

The narcissist manipulates symbols the same way computers manipulate binary symbols and he interacts only with these symbols, but there's a breakdown in communication. His internal objects don't work well together, don't communicate well. The channels of transmission are disrupted.

There are internal dissonances and conflicts among the internal objects and in a nutshell, the reason is that each of these internal objects is linked intimately to a series of cognitions, a series of thoughts and a series of emotions.

And because narcissists have cognitive deficits, they don't know how to think well. They don't know how to think properly. Their thinking is unrealistic. It's fantastic. And also they have no access to emotions, to their emotions or at the very least to positive emotions. They don't have the tools to manage the internal objects in a coherent and cohesive way. They don't have the tools to integrate the internal objects into an internal narrative.

It's like you would be a film director and every actor does what he wants. Every actor is on improv. Everyone is improvising and they don't care what you say. You're trying to direct the film, trying to direct the movie and the actors don't give a hoot. They follow their own internal scripts and ideas and, you know, they're all over the place.

These are the narcissist's internal objects.

Similarly, the narcissist cannot regulate well external objects because he immediately internalizes them. The minute he internalizes the internal object, it is subject to the same constraints that I've mentioned before.

Lack of access to positive emotions and cognitive biases and deficits, problems with thinking.

So objects generally are a big problem for the narcissist. It becomes even much worse when the narcissist tries desperately to correlate internal objects with external objects to somehow create communication between internal and external because the narcissist is subject to a lot of dissociation, to estrangement.

In other words, the narcissist very often feels derealized, depersonalized, amnesia.

Because the narcissist is discontinuous, he is unable to maintain a proper dialogue, ongoing dialogue between all the objects.

So the narcissist is like in a maelstrom, in the eye of a hurricane, in a tornado, in a twister of objects, all swirling around him, about to collide with him, about to injure him, about to offend him, about to hurt him, about to challenge his grandiosity. All these objects are swirling around like in the Wizard of Oz, the beginning with Dorothy in Kansas.

All narcissists live in Kansas. And so there's this hurricane, this twister, and all these objects are very menacing. They are threatening. It's frightening not to be able to control your internal environment when you have only an internal environment.

And the narcissist therefore is in a constant state of anxiety.

Indeed, during the 70s and 80s, there were a few scholars who tried to reconceive of narcissism as a depressive illness, as a problem with the management of anxiety and depression.

Many of the behaviors of the narcissist are intended just to ameliorate and reduce anxiety, regulate it and control it.

The narcissist is unable to communicate with external objects and with you, essentially, with his intimate partners. He is unable to communicate with you because he has no empathy. He has no empathy. He has no access to his emotions. He has primitive defenses like splitting. He doesn't see you, really. He idealizes you. And the idealized image, of course, is not you. Or he devalues you. And the devalued image is not you. The narcissist never interacts with you, with a real you, for better or worse, with your strengths and shortcomings, limitations and talents, skills, hopes, fears. He doesn't see you as you, as a separate, unique entity. He interacts with a snapshot of you, which is imbued with positivity.

And then it's idealized. It's fantastic. It's unreal. It's imaginary. Or it's imbued with negativity, negative emotionality.

In this case, it's devalued. It's equally unreal. So primitive defenses like splitting make it very difficult for him to interact with other people. And then he has cognitive deficits and cognitive biases, his grandiosity, for example, or the Dunning-Kruger effect, where he considers everyone to be an idiot, inferior to him, much more stupid than he is. Or there is confirmation bias, where he rejects information that doesn't sit well with his internal grandiose, fantastic egosyntonic narrative.

So if you put all this together, lack of empathy, cognitive biases, primitive defenses, no emotions, you get a part human.

The narcissist is only partly human. The experience of what it is to be human is alien to him.


So now we come to the active shirt fantasy.

The narcissist is an active shirt fantasy.

And he's at first, his intimate partner is usually adulate during the grooming and the lump bombing phase.

You remember the intimate partner is an admirer fulfills the role, the role of an admirer. It's someone who provides the narcissist with two of the three S's, sex, supply and services.

And at that point, the narcissist experiences maximal grandiosity. The existence or the presence of an adulating, admiring intimate partner allows the narcissist the unparalleled experience of maximal grandiosity.

I can compare this perhaps only to a drug high, a high of pure unadulterated herring or crack. It's something out of this world, this feeling of maximal grandiosity, because grandiosity is expansive. It expands like the big bang. It creates a whole universe.

Indeed the narcissist subsumes the universe. He becomes the world, he becomes the universe. And so he becomes almost God-like, if not God-like.

And only in the presence of an intimate partner is what makes this possible.

Of course, all this is backed by unconstrained magical thinking.

To feel that you're God, to feel that you subsume that you, that you have assimilated the universe, to feel that there's nothing you cannot do, that you're omnipotent, to feel that your intimate partner thinks the same.

All these require magical thinking. All these require a divorce from reality and impaired reality testing.

And the narcissist at that moment feels invincible, omnipotent, capable of anything and everything, miraculously perfect, unblemishedly accomplished, impeccable, perfect, brilliant, the epitome and culmination of creation.

And it's possible to attain this sensation. It's possible to experience this sensation. It's possible to go through maximal grandiosity.

In other circumstances, for example, winning an election, making a lot of money, passing an exam publicly, being applauded if you're an actor, being exposed on mass media.

There are many ways, many paths, many routes to maximal grandiosity.

But all these routes, all these alternatives require a lot of heavy lifting, a lot of work, a lot of investment in ordinate amounts of time and resources.

And above all, they require repeated interaction with people. They require a lot of pretension, faking it till you make it, a lot of collaboration and cooperation and co-optation, surviving the inferior so as to let them enable you.

So the narcissist feels that everyone around him is half human or intermission. Everyone around him is subhuman. The narcissist is superior, not only superior by virtue of special skills or special talents, superior by his mere existence. His intelligence is superior. His looks are superior. His accomplishments are superior or could be superior. Everything about him is utterly out of this world and definitely out of the confines and remit of human affairs.

So to be forced to spend your time with inferior creatures just because it's a prerequisite for experiencing maximal grandiosity is a bit self-defeating. It's a contradiction in terms. It's almost mutually exclusive.

How can you experience maximal grandiosity if you depend on other people to attain it, to obtain it, to secure it?

And indeed, this is a conflict in narcissists, the dependence of their sources of supply.

They need the sources of supply. They are utterly addicted to the sources of supply, but they also detest and hate them.

An intimate partner is a shortcut. It's simply a shortcut.

You have to suffer the ineluctable existence of a single individual, inferior as she may be. You can idealize her much more easily, so you need not think of her as inferior actually.

If you are interacting with the idealized image, you can pretend that she is not inferior. And then she provides a shortcut to magical, maximal, universal, godlike grandiosity.

That's why narcissists are addicted to secondary supply, addicted to the kind of narcissistic supply provided only by intimate partners, maids, spouses, and so on. And that's why breakups with narcissists are very complicated. That's why there's a lot of stocking, a lot of hoovering, a lot of addictive behaviors.

As a narcissist, can't just let it go simply.

The intimate partner who fits for the narcissist, various roles, possibly the most important of which, she's a drug. She's the exact equivalent of a prescribed substance, class A substance. He's a drug. He consumes his intimate partner so as to experience the hallucinatory, mushroom-like experience of maximal grandiosity.

She is the puff. She is the down. She is the towel. She is the way. She is the logos. She is the journey to perfection, to completion, to feeling whole, to feeling God.

So if you have to work hard for decades and then experience maximal grandiosity, you can shortcut this process and within three months, find an intimate partner who would make you feel exactly the same. And this perfect grandiose state is a regression, of course. It's a regression to an infantile state. It's a regression to very, very early childhood when the narcissist was, what, six months old.

You see, at that stage, the child feels one with the world. There are no boundaries. Child, mother, world. They are all one entity. The child cannot make, does not make a distinction.

I end here. The world begins here. The child merges, fuses seamlessly with his mother as a representation and an agent of the world.

And so this is an infantile state, a regressive state, a boundaried state. And it can be accomplished only if the mother is good enough. A good enough mother is a term, a phrase invented by the famous pediatrician turned psychologist, David Winnicott, to describe a mother who provides this environment, holding environment, accepting environment, unconditional love, the environment in which the child gradually can begin to disengage from her and separate and explore the world. We'll talk about it in a minute.

So you need a good enough mother for this. She needs to be, what is called in psychology, in child psychology, a safe base. She needs to be someone you can abandon safely for half an hour and go play with other kids. Someone you can walk away from in order to explore a flower or a puppy or a tree or just the sky with clouds. To find yourself in the world and to find the world in you, you need to feel that she has your back. Mommy, mother has your back, that she is safe and that she is a base, someplace you can go back to.

And so the mother is critical in this. The mother is critical in this phase of childhood.

The narcissist is trying to parentify his intimate partner, to convert her into a safe base, into a good enough mother, to allow him to again experience primary narcissism, the unmitigated grandiose state of early childhood.

Because it's enmeshment, it's fusion, it's merger, not only with the mother figure or with the intimate partner in this case, but with the entire world. It's an indescribable state, akin, very much to how Nirvana is described. Nirvana in Eastern mystical traditions, enlightenment in Eastern mystical traditions is described this way, a loss of the ego and then merger fusion with the world, with the universe, the realization that all the distinctions and all the boundaries are actually very artificial. They're man-made, you made them. And since you made them, you can also undo them. You can remove these boundaries, these limitations, these fences, and you can be one with the world again.

In the case of the narcissist, this oneness is not about enlightenment. It's about control. It's about power. It's a power play. It's grandiosity. It's sometimes sadism, the ability to inflict pain, the gratifying ability to inflict pain.

So the narcissist's motivations are adulterated. He wants to regress to the child, infantile state. He wants to feel maximally grandiose. He wants to feel one with the world, but he wants to feel one with the world so that he can mutilate the world, punish the world, control the world, tell the world what to do.

Does Hitler come to mind? Probably should. And all this is accomplished instantaneously with the right intimate partner and adoring, admiring partner. A partner who tells you, who tells the narcissist he can do nothing wrong. A partner who tells the narcissist he's always right. A partner who tells the narcissist everyone is out to get him. People are envious of him. He is superior. This kind of enabler, this kind of co-dependent partner is ideal for the narcissist.

It's not that he thinks, he doesn't look for that intentionally. But if he comes across it, of course it's best. It's a good enough, good enough safe based mother. And it allows the narcissist actually to feel safe enough, having gone back, having teleported, having transported himself back to childhood through the agency of this surrogate mother, his intimate partner.

Now he finds himself in childhood. Now he is grandiose. Now he is God-like. Now the world is his, he is the world. Now therefore there's no risk because if he's in full control and if he is the world and if he is God, what's the risk?

So now he can allow himself to separate and to individuate.

Remember that narcissism, pathological narcissism is a disruption, an attachment dysfunction and a disruption in the process, in the very critical process of separation and individuation.

Narcissist's primary object, usually his mother does not allow him to become a separate individual, does not let him develop his own boundaries, does not blackmail him into remaining with her, staying with her, does not untangle the enmeshment, the fusion and the merger between them. She insists on remaining a single organism with two heads. There's a lot of incest, ambient incest involved, but with the right intimate partner the narcissist feels grandiose enough, strong enough, perfect enough, brilliant enough, omniscient and omnipotent enough and everything enough to try now to separate, to try now to individuate.

And this of course explains the approach, avoidance, repetition, compulsion, why he keeps coming towards you and then withdrawing from you, the intermittent reinforcement, why one day he loves you, the next he hates you, why the hot and cold, exactly like a child.

Those of you who are mothers know what I'm talking about. A child is like that, all children have repetition, compulsions, approach avoidance, all of them approach and then avoid.

You cannot really predict a child because he's experimenting, he's experimenting with his individuality, he is creating himself, he's generating himself in contrast to you, in comparison with you. You are the background against which he emerges and delineates and demarcates himself.

So if you are the right intimate partner, if you are a functional intimate partner, the narcissist then feels safe enough to do exactly this. So he runs towards you and hugs your leg as a child would, but then he runs away from you and explores the world, including other women. He separates from you and individuates because he sees you as a mother and he begins to experience himself as a constellated functioning self.

That's for the narcissist, as far as the narcissist is concerned, that is the unparalleled Disneyland of the mind. The narcissist doesn't have an ego, that's the irony, he can't be an egotist because he doesn't have an ego. He doesn't have a self.

Jung said that his introversion was unsuccessful, he did not succeed to introvert properly.

In any case he doesn't have a functioning constellated self, but through you he can experience a constellated functioning self.

It's a great pity and it's ironic that this self that he's experiencing is actually the false self. In other words, you allow the narcissist to actually get in touch with his false self, to interact with his false self, to communicate and to interrogate his false self, sometimes to doubt his false self.

And the narcissist never forgives you for this, you should realize this.

If you are a truly good intimate partner, you will pay a dear price, no good deed goes unpunished. That you have enabled the narcissist, empowered the narcissist to own his life, to be in his life, to feel responsible for his life and to interact with his false self. That is something the narcissist will never forget and will never forgive.

Exhilarating as this experience is, it also sows the seeds, it creates the foundation of mortification, which comes inexorably later in this process.

So the intimate partner can provide a full experience of the false self in the active shared fantasy and a direct experience of the true self via mortification.

I've made three videos regarding mortification, they're on this channel, I encourage you to watch them.

Mortification is simply when the narcissist comes face to face with himself, as he is seen through others.

So when he no longer can deny who he is, the monster that is, the problem that is, the dysfunction that is, the illness that is, he can no longer deny it, he can no longer reframe it, he can no longer repress it, he can no longer invent stories and narratives and wish it away. Mortification is the end game, the last station in the line.

A narcissist faces himself and it is the intimate partner that provides him with this experience by abandoning him, by cheating on him, by humiliating him publicly or should be, ostentatiously.

An intimate partner provides the full experience of the false self when she is admiring, when she is a playmate and above all when she agrees to play the role of a mother.

But then when she inevitably, and she inevitably abandons the narcissist, when she no longer is willing to pay the price of her own suppression, of her own vanishing, when she insists on finding a life and happiness in it and therefore is forced to leave the narcissist.

When this happens, there's mortification and again the narcissist gets in touch, this time with another construct, not with the false self, but with the true self.

These are two unforgivable, unforgivable effects of the intimate partner.

Therefore, not only the narcissist can never love an intimate partner, the narcissist will always hate his intimate partner.

This is not what the narcissist has with his intimate partner, it's not real object relations.

In object relations, you should have an object. You relate to an object, that's why it's called an object relation.

A narcissist doesn't have this. A narcissist doesn't see you as a separate thing, as a thing out there. You're not out there, you are in here. It's part of the narcissist's self-loathing and self-hatred.

The more you inhabit, the more you occupy, the more you are resident in the narcissist's mind, the more he hates you because the more he hates you himself. The more he becomes aware of his false self through you, the more he hates himself and because you're part of himself, the more he hates you.

The more you mortify him and because of the mortification, he comes to learn who he truly is, his true self. He hates himself for this. He detests himself, he reviles himself. No one hates the narcissist more than the narcissist.

Because you're an integral part of his identity, of his mind, of his landscape of introjects, landscape of internal objects, he hates you as well. The libidinal investment, as psychoanalysts call it, the investment of the life force, the libido, is in the self, not in the outside, not in you.

The narcissist invests his libido, libido is the life force, it includes also sex drive.

The narcissist invests the libido, not in you, but in himself.

Think about the sex. The narcissist's sexuality is not adult sexuality. It's not mature sexuality. It's a form of self-soothing, masturbatory, auto-eroticism. It's self-directed, physically, literally self-directed.

Unfortunately, I can't give you a demonstration right now. But it's self-directed. It's auto-erotic.

The narcissist finds himself to be very arousing. The narcissist is his own erotic object through you. He sees himself through you.

If you find him attractive, if you find him irresistible, he is attracted to himself through you. It's actually self-love by proxy, and you are the proxy.

And the narcissist's sex is coupled with sadism. Sadism could be physical, could be psychological. It could be humiliation or kink or BDSM, but there's always an element of sadism. Objectifying you, using you as an object, using you as an animated sex doll. These are all forms of sadism, dehumanizing you. It's aimed at destroying you.

The narcissist, even in sex, even during the sex act, shows you that he wants to destroy you because you are an intruding object, destroying your proofs to the narcissist, that he has power over you, upholds and buttresses his omnipotence, god-like omnipotence. It's very mixed here. You are part of him. He hates himself, so he hates you. You allow him to communicate with himself, with his false self, with his true self. He hates you for this. He doesn't want to communicate with himself. He hates himself, so he hates you for this as well.

And finally, you have power over him. So he wants to destroy you because how can you have power over him? He's god, he's omnipotent, and he's going to destroy you for this. He's proud of his utter independence. He's proud of the fact that allegedly no one has power over him. He is the most powerful person.

The narcissist somehow is dimly aware that he cannot maintain meaningful communication with the outside and with the inside. He feels, experiences, he lives through.

This is his quiddity. This is his essence. Miscommunication is his essence. It's like all sentences end in the middle. No point is ever reached. There's no punchline, except the narcissist's life.

The narcissist tells himself he's trying to justify this. He's trying to explain to himself why he can't communicate normally with people, why he can't communicate normally with himself.

And he says, well, probably because I'm too intelligent or I'm too unique, idiosyncratic. I have nothing in common with these people. How can they ever understand me? Why try?

In an active shared fantasy, the intimate partner facilitates communication with the false self. And the false self is the only interlocutor, the only partner with whom the narcissist can communicate. It's the false self. Don't forget. It's God-like. It has attributes of God. It knows everything. It's all powerful. It's perfect. It's brilliant. It's infallible. It never makes mistakes. It's God.

So the narcissist danes, agrees, accepts communication with the false self. It is equal. The false self is equal.

But here again, here again, there's a contradiction in terms. To communicate with the false self, the narcissist needs a mediator. He needs a conveyor belt. He needs a transmission mechanism.

In this case, the intimate partner.

So the only interlocutor amenable, acceptable to the narcissist is the false self.

But to communicate with the false self, the narcissist has to resort to a much inferior entity, you, and that pisses him off, irritates him, not end.

His dependence on you to talk to himself is very grating, grating and aggravating. You also provide obliquely access to emotional and other modes of communication, which are not goal-oriented.

The narcissist is pronounced, usually pronounced, antisocial dimension, psychopathic streak. So he's usually defiant and this and that.

But one of the main things about the narcissist is goal-oriented.

Now, the goal could be irrational. The goal could be self-defeating or idiotic. The goal could be narcissistic supply, for example. But whatever else you say about the narcissist, most narcissists are self-efficacious or they would not have survived.

Narcissism is a positive adaptation in the sense that it allows the narcissist to survive and to derive, to extract and to extricate positive outcomes, beneficial outcomes from a very hostile environment.

So narcissism works as we are describing on a civilizational level. I mean, we collectively are becoming narcissists and we are becoming more and more narcissistic because narcissism works.

And so narcissists are goal-oriented and suddenly the intimate partner comes in and she teaches the narcissist to communicate in ways which are not goal-oriented, to be more, for example, emotional or just to loaf around and to slack around and, you know, just to enjoy life, to have a good time, doing nothing, obtaining nothing, securing nothing, a respite, a respite from the rat race.

And so the narcissist intimate partner encourages him to have what we call non-sublimatory, libidinal investment in cafes. Did I impress you? No. Let me explain.

We all have urges and drives and many of these urges and drives situated in the ID, according to Freud.

Anyhow, many of these urges and drives are socially unacceptable. You want to jump, you want to jump the drop dead gorgeous, sexy, date of your calling, but you don't. You don't because it's bad for you, bad for him, probably bad for him. You don't because society frowns on such behavior.

So you instead what you do, you sublimate, you sublimate this energy.

Sublimation means acting in socially condoned, socially conforming and socially acceptable ways to discharge energies, drives and urges, which are normally not socially acceptable or even criminal.

So the intimate partner encourages the narcissist to actually look himself in the mirror in a variety of ways.

Look his false self in the mirror. If she modifies him, she forces him to look his real self, true self in the mirror, but one way or another, she forces him to not sublimate. She forces him to acknowledge, accept, recognize, and finally perhaps adopt the real drives and urges in a way that would gratify him or help him be more at one with himself. She makes him whole.

In a way, she integrates the narcissist.

If she's a proper intimate partner in an active shared fantasy and fulfills her roles, her functions as admirer, playmate and mother, she helps a narcissist in other ways, in other words, grow up. She has a narcissist grow up, except himself.

She redirects his libido, the investment of his libido, his libidinal investment, and his cathaxis, his emotional investment. She redirects them so in a way that is more congruent, more fitting, more acceptable, more egosyntonic to the narcissist in a way that would not feel alien and strange and wrong.

And the narcissist, through the agency of the internet partner, feels that it's okay. He is okay. The world is okay. You remember the famous book? I'm okay. You're okay. Everything suddenly is okay. It is this feeling of relief, relaxation, anxiety reduction and amelioration.

The intimate partner is like a good anxiolytic and antidepressant rolled into one pallet of appeal.

Suddenly, the narcissist can open his eyes without weariness, without paranoia, without fear, without reticence, just open his eyes and just be. Without any goal, just be. And it feels good, but it also feels ominous.

Because to just be is to be like everyone else. The narcissist cannot be like everyone else.

And so he begins to regard his intimate partner as a threat because she makes him, she renders him human. And whatever else the narcissist wants to be when he grows up, he does not definitely want to be human.

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Living with a narcissist can be exhilarating, but it is always onerous and often harrowing. Surviving a relationship with a narcissist, maintaining a relationship, preserving it, insisting on remaining with a narcissist, indicates therefore the parameters of the personality of the victim, of the partner, of the spouse. The partner, the spouse, and the mate of a narcissist who insists on remaining in the relationship and preserving it is molded by it into the typical narcissistic mate, spouse, or partner. The two, the narcissist and his spouse, collaborate in this dance macabre.


Mourning the Narcissist

Victims of narcissistic abuse often struggle to let go of the idealized figure they fell in love with at the beginning of the relationship. When the relationship ends, they experience a cycle of bereavement and grief, including denial, rage, sadness, and acceptance. Denial can take many forms, including pretending the narcissist is still part of their lives or developing persecutory delusions. Rage can be directed at the narcissist, other facilitators of the loss, oneself, or be pervasive. Sadness is a paralyzing sensation that slows one down and enshrouds everything in the grave veil of randomness and chance. Gradual acceptance leads to renewed energy and the narcissist being transformed into a narrative, another life experience, or even a tedious cliché.


Narcissistic Abuse: From Victim to Survivor in 6 Steps

To move on from being a victim of narcissistic abuse, one must abandon the narcissist and move on. Moving on is a process that involves acknowledging and accepting painful reality, learning from the experience, and deciding to act. It is important to grieve and mourn the loss of trust and love, but perpetual grieving is counterproductive. Forgiveness is important, but it should not be a universal behavior. Human relationships are dynamic and require constant assessment. It is not advisable to remain friends with narcissists, as they are only nice and friendly when they want something. Inverted narcissists who remain in relationships with narcissists are victims who deny their own torment and fail to make the transition to survivors.


Love Your Narcissist? Make Him Stay, Depend on You (Tips, Resolutions)

In a relationship with a narcissist, it is important to know what not to do and what to do to maintain the relationship. Avoid disagreeing, contradicting, or criticizing the narcissist, and never offer intimacy or challenge their self-image. To make the narcissist dependent on you, listen attentively, agree with everything they say, offer something unique, be patient, and be emotionally and financially independent. It is also crucial to know yourself and set personal boundaries, treating yourself with dignity and demanding respect from others. If the relationship becomes abusive, consider going no-contact and ending the relationship for your own well-being.

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